1 00:00:23,749 --> 00:00:03,290 you're listening to IRA the inception 2 00:00:29,909 --> 00:00:27,900 archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's 3 00:00:33,060 --> 00:00:29,919 just another night for Supernatural 4 00:00:35,460 --> 00:00:33,070 girls real stories real answers to 5 00:00:38,369 --> 00:00:35,470 life's biggest supernatural mysteries 6 00:00:41,130 --> 00:00:38,379 and now further exciting interview with 7 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:41,140 paranormal experts this world and others 8 00:00:55,790 --> 00:00:44,050 here's your host paranormal researcher 9 00:01:03,060 --> 00:00:58,950 welcome everyone to another exciting 10 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:03,070 episode of Supernatural girls radio I am 11 00:01:06,930 --> 00:01:04,000 your host 12 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:06,940 Patricia Baker and I am here with some 13 00:01:14,370 --> 00:01:09,670 very special people tonight first of all 14 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:14,380 my excellent co-host numerologist 15 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:18,250 Patricia Kirkman PK and how are you 16 00:01:23,969 --> 00:01:21,210 doing tonight PK absolutely fabulous 17 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:23,979 we're getting more rain I love it 18 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:26,410 oh and Tucson that is a wonderful thing 19 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:29,710 well good well welcoming you to the show 20 00:01:35,130 --> 00:01:31,990 and now we have a very special co-host 21 00:01:38,790 --> 00:01:35,140 who's joining us and that is our dear 22 00:01:46,139 --> 00:01:38,800 friend Becky Andres and hi Becky hi 23 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:46,149 Patricia Ann Patricia hello darling I'm 24 00:01:52,290 --> 00:01:49,210 happy to be here tonight I'm excited oh 25 00:01:55,469 --> 00:01:52,300 yeah so this is your thing I mean you 26 00:01:58,529 --> 00:01:55,479 are our very own UFO abductees and as 27 00:02:02,279 --> 00:01:58,539 everybody knows in the audience we have 28 00:02:05,940 --> 00:02:02,289 a really terrific and unusual show 29 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:05,950 tonight we have with us Helen luttrell 30 00:02:13,530 --> 00:02:09,729 who is the author of Rachel's eyes now 31 00:02:17,699 --> 00:02:13,540 this is a strange but true case of a 32 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:17,709 human-alien hybrid this is going to be 33 00:02:22,559 --> 00:02:20,290 fantastic we have a few things to talk 34 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:22,569 about first before we bring Helen on to 35 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:25,090 the show so let's start first of all 36 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:27,520 with our numbers PK what do we got going 37 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:29,590 on for tomorrow well we're in a brand 38 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:31,620 new month which deals with family 39 00:02:37,229 --> 00:02:34,440 relationships wanting everything perfect 40 00:02:40,559 --> 00:02:37,239 alternative medicines which is a hot 41 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:40,569 number right now and paying attention to 42 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:43,480 alternative dieting meaning choice of 43 00:02:48,059 --> 00:02:46,360 foods etc which is excellent and 44 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:48,069 tomorrow's in eight days that we're 45 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:49,030 going to really feel like we're in 46 00:02:54,270 --> 00:02:51,519 charge of what we're doing that's going 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:54,280 to be a nice change the most important 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:56,410 part to think about for this month is as 49 00:03:00,900 --> 00:02:59,290 much as we want everything perfect we do 50 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:00,910 need to allow others to make their own 51 00:03:06,150 --> 00:03:03,070 choices otherwise we're going to be 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:06,160 considered meddlers and we don't want 53 00:03:10,890 --> 00:03:07,330 that one No 54 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:10,900 no meddling for us to each his own right 55 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:13,060 that's right well it sounds like pretty 56 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:14,650 good energy coming in tomorrow for all 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:19,120 of it great excellent well we also have 58 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:21,130 a little bit of paranormal news and this 59 00:03:27,510 --> 00:03:24,160 ties in with our show tonight there is a 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:27,520 neurologist dr. Michael B Russo in 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:28,810 Hawaii 62 00:03:34,350 --> 00:03:31,890 and he was using a special 63 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:34,360 electroencephalograph machine a dense 64 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:38,080 array in suppli graph is some of his 65 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:39,940 patients who were complaining of 66 00:03:46,020 --> 00:03:42,640 headaches and things like that but they 67 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:46,030 also shared a similar bond here they all 68 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:48,550 felt they had been abducted by 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:50,140 extraterrestrials 70 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:52,930 so he started measuring their brainwaves 71 00:03:58,230 --> 00:03:56,380 and what he found was startling he 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:03:58,240 actually found there were patterns 73 00:04:04,590 --> 00:04:01,570 across these patients in the parietal 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:04,600 lobe it showed abnormal T's and 75 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:06,850 abnormalities excuse me in brainwave 76 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:10,209 activity now this is the first I have 77 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:13,209 heard that any science has backed up 78 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:15,120 that there's something going on with 79 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:18,750 abductees brains so this is a very new 80 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:22,270 subject that's coming up and it's I 81 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:24,520 think wonderful for the abductees who 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:26,320 have been afraid that they're all alone 83 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:28,690 in this that they're hallucinating or 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:30,880 imaginary this is all their imagination 85 00:04:36,090 --> 00:04:33,490 now they're finding out through this 86 00:04:39,659 --> 00:04:36,100 doctor that there is a change in their 87 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:39,669 electrical brainwave activity and again 88 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:41,710 across the board all of the alien 89 00:04:49,980 --> 00:04:45,820 abductee patients are very similar and 90 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:49,990 they're also similar to people who have 91 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:52,660 had traumatic brain injury which is also 92 00:04:58,620 --> 00:04:55,960 interesting so it's not so good but it 93 00:05:00,180 --> 00:04:58,630 is for abductees I think and Becky 94 00:05:01,950 --> 00:05:00,190 you'll have to join in on this one I 95 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:01,960 think it's a good thing to know that 96 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:03,580 there really is something going on with 97 00:05:10,110 --> 00:05:06,910 brain waves with abductees yes I think 98 00:05:11,969 --> 00:05:10,120 it's wonderful because that even shows 99 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:11,979 the ETS 100 00:05:17,130 --> 00:05:14,830 tinkering with the body I mean it shows 101 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:17,140 it science is finally stepping in and 102 00:05:21,459 --> 00:05:19,630 taking a step up and proving something 103 00:05:23,379 --> 00:05:21,469 and this could even go for 104 00:05:25,689 --> 00:05:23,389 this could really even go further and it 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:25,699 would be amazing to be able to study 106 00:05:30,369 --> 00:05:28,490 that and and have people come forward 107 00:05:34,119 --> 00:05:30,379 and find out you know the different 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:34,129 degrees of the brainwaves and I you know 109 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:36,289 like someone who has been abducted all 110 00:05:40,510 --> 00:05:37,759 their life or someone who has just 111 00:05:42,189 --> 00:05:40,520 recently been abducted or someone who 112 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:42,199 may not even know they have been and 113 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:44,930 find out they have this is fascinating I 114 00:05:50,260 --> 00:05:47,870 love it yes it really is exciting news 115 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:50,270 and again more validation for people 116 00:05:54,670 --> 00:05:51,520 like you have had these experiences 117 00:05:57,129 --> 00:05:54,680 throughout your whole life and it's 118 00:05:59,499 --> 00:05:57,139 again it's it's in a way it's comforting 119 00:06:03,339 --> 00:05:59,509 I think for our case to have this 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:03,349 information well tonight I promised that 121 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:05,810 I was going to give new information to 122 00:06:12,100 --> 00:06:08,090 our audience to all of our listeners 123 00:06:13,719 --> 00:06:12,110 about aliens among us know not only do 124 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:13,729 we have Helen luttrell on the show 125 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:15,710 tonight which is going to be a 126 00:06:19,689 --> 00:06:17,750 rip-roaring show I can't wait to get her 127 00:06:24,159 --> 00:06:19,699 on but I did want to share with 128 00:06:28,899 --> 00:06:24,169 everybody that many years ago I worked 129 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:28,909 with a clinical psychologist who had top 130 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:31,759 clearance and different levels of 131 00:06:37,629 --> 00:06:34,460 security worked with the CIA the FBI all 132 00:06:41,379 --> 00:06:37,639 the alphabet agencies and one day he 133 00:06:45,010 --> 00:06:41,389 confided in me that in fact there were 134 00:06:48,369 --> 00:06:45,020 aliens living among us now he told me 135 00:06:52,149 --> 00:06:48,379 that he was shown photographs of these 136 00:06:54,670 --> 00:06:52,159 aliens and he said many of them this is 137 00:06:57,219 --> 00:06:54,680 the part that really shocked him you 138 00:07:01,300 --> 00:06:57,229 couldn't tell them apart from us they 139 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:01,310 looked completely human and he was told 140 00:07:07,779 --> 00:07:05,060 at that time by these people in the 141 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:07,789 military that a lot of them had 142 00:07:12,159 --> 00:07:10,000 integrated themselves to our own 143 00:07:15,909 --> 00:07:12,169 neighborhoods and again we would never 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:15,919 know that they were not from here now 145 00:07:19,899 --> 00:07:17,930 that clinical psychologist I'm going to 146 00:07:22,389 --> 00:07:19,909 tell you who it was because he's passed 147 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:22,399 away been again he was a dear friend of 148 00:07:26,769 --> 00:07:24,409 mine and we worked closely together on 149 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:26,779 certain projects his name was Bill Shull 150 00:07:32,889 --> 00:07:29,659 bill wrote a number of books about 151 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:32,899 psychic events and also the pyramids but 152 00:07:38,689 --> 00:07:34,889 his background was clinical psychology 153 00:07:40,610 --> 00:07:38,699 and when he told me this I remember the 154 00:07:43,369 --> 00:07:40,620 moment that he shared this with me and 155 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:43,379 he told me in great detail about all the 156 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:46,110 photographs that he had been shown now 157 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:49,530 he also said he saw a number of races it 158 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:52,830 did not look human and they were also 159 00:07:57,679 --> 00:07:55,199 here on the planet some of them were 160 00:07:59,779 --> 00:07:57,689 very tall some of them were reptilian so 161 00:08:02,749 --> 00:07:59,789 again we've heard these things over and 162 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:02,759 over again from a number of our guests 163 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:05,310 but this is the first time that I've 164 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:07,560 been on the radio with all of you guys 165 00:08:12,769 --> 00:08:10,500 my friends my audience members all of 166 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:12,779 our listeners to share this with you 167 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:16,169 this is what dr. Phil had to say so I'm 168 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:18,599 sharing it with you tonight and if you 169 00:08:21,260 --> 00:08:20,430 don't think this stuff is real you 170 00:08:24,679 --> 00:08:21,270 better think again 171 00:08:28,999 --> 00:08:24,689 it is in the meantime we are going to 172 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:29,009 introduce our guest Helen luttrell now 173 00:08:36,019 --> 00:08:31,560 Helen has had a remarkable experience 174 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:36,029 with an alien hybrid and she is going to 175 00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:38,310 join us in a minute I really we all 176 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:40,320 highly recommend her book which is 177 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:44,250 called Rachel's eyes and Helen 178 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:47,130 welcome to Supernatural girls yes what 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:51,420 are you thank you so much pleasure to be 180 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:53,850 on your program well thank you for 181 00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:55,769 coming on our show I mean you were 182 00:09:01,430 --> 00:08:57,990 living what you thought was a very kind 183 00:09:02,210 --> 00:09:01,440 of a normal life you were in an unhappy 184 00:09:04,370 --> 00:09:02,220 marriage 185 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:04,380 and but you did have your daughter at 186 00:09:12,889 --> 00:09:07,769 home Arisa and she was in junior college 187 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:12,899 and she moved out to start her life at 188 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:16,110 college and her roommate was this very 189 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:18,300 unusual person and my goodness it was 190 00:09:23,449 --> 00:09:19,529 like you were just thrown into the 191 00:09:27,550 --> 00:09:23,459 x-files so tell us about this how did 192 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:27,560 this happen well I'm still not sure 193 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:32,100 although I guess I'm more sure than I 194 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:34,260 was at the time I thought it was just 195 00:09:40,670 --> 00:09:37,529 sort of a happy coincidence that the two 196 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:40,680 girls got put together in the apartment 197 00:09:47,059 --> 00:09:43,230 because my daughter needed someone to 198 00:09:48,740 --> 00:09:47,069 help her out with the rent and utilities 199 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:48,750 and that because she didn't have 200 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:53,010 too much money on her own and this 201 00:09:59,690 --> 00:09:56,190 unusual looking person who turned out to 202 00:10:04,130 --> 00:09:59,700 be Rachel appeared almost instantly 203 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:04,140 actually it was within a day or so of my 204 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:06,600 daughter's asking for a roommate that 205 00:10:13,490 --> 00:10:09,030 could help out and in the room Nate 206 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:13,500 looked very unusual but the father was 207 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:16,170 with her the man who was supposed to be 208 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:17,040 her father 209 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:20,210 and he just agreed to taint of 210 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:23,040 everything that was needed the half of 211 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:25,850 the rent and all the utilities and so on 212 00:10:32,830 --> 00:10:28,800 and the girls just been hit it off 213 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:32,840 immediately they got along very well but 214 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:36,360 and I thought for years and years that 215 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:38,220 that was just some sort of a coincidence 216 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:41,310 that they got together like that but now 217 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:44,280 I believe that they were put together 218 00:10:51,530 --> 00:10:48,210 this Rachel was placed with my daughter 219 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:51,540 probably by the government because your 220 00:10:58,370 --> 00:10:55,680 daughter had diabetes and she also had a 221 00:11:02,000 --> 00:10:58,380 loss of vision so she didn't see very 222 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:02,010 clearly no she didn't and she needed 223 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:04,620 someone actually that could help her 224 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:07,170 with the activities of daily living such 225 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:08,970 as picking out her clothes because she 226 00:11:14,890 --> 00:11:12,300 couldn't she couldn't really see the 227 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:14,900 colors that well and her vision 228 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:18,930 fluctuated so much from time to time so 229 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:21,620 she needed somebody that could help her 230 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:24,800 and yes he had had childhood diabetes 231 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:29,700 diagnosed at eight years old and and her 232 00:11:35,690 --> 00:11:33,360 vision went completely after that she 233 00:11:38,090 --> 00:11:35,700 really was the perfect roommate for 234 00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:38,100 Rachel who is rather odd-looking because 235 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:39,870 your daughter would have been able to 236 00:11:45,770 --> 00:11:44,040 see that no she couldn't and if she did 237 00:11:47,570 --> 00:11:45,780 I don't think she would have paid much 238 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:47,580 attention to it but I'm sure that she 239 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:50,030 didn't see anything but the barest 240 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:52,950 details you know that it was a person 241 00:11:59,900 --> 00:11:56,550 there and so it was really a good match 242 00:12:02,720 --> 00:11:59,910 and they got along well together there 243 00:12:04,939 --> 00:12:02,730 were these things about Rachel that 244 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:04,949 would tell me that Rachel could not eat 245 00:12:12,410 --> 00:12:09,930 regular food and excuse me and that she 246 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:12,420 couldn't drink regular water and these 247 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:14,430 things were left outside the apartment 248 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:17,220 door just about every two weeks it would 249 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:20,149 be just before Rachel would run out and 250 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:24,120 and so if she had been telling me little 251 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:26,250 things like that and that sometimes 252 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:29,220 Rachel picked out outfit didn't exactly 253 00:12:40,329 --> 00:12:32,550 match what you was told to her by her 254 00:12:43,009 --> 00:12:40,339 friend so they got along well and 255 00:12:46,189 --> 00:12:43,019 Marissa knew that Rachel was a little 256 00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:46,199 unusual but that didn't bother her 257 00:12:52,189 --> 00:12:48,899 because you raised a daughter who was so 258 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:52,199 loving and accepting so even if she had 259 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:54,930 seen what Rachel truly looked like it 260 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:56,370 sounds like she would have accepted her 261 00:13:01,660 --> 00:12:59,370 anyways I think she would have I think 262 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:01,670 she would have Marissa was like that she 263 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:06,240 was just very accepting of people no 264 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:07,889 matter what they looked like or what 265 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:10,230 their ethnic background may have been or 266 00:13:14,449 --> 00:13:13,170 anything like that so they did get along 267 00:13:18,379 --> 00:13:14,459 really well 268 00:13:22,939 --> 00:13:18,389 the president was yes no to the problem 269 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:22,949 was yeah when I had stopped to see my 270 00:13:28,670 --> 00:13:26,910 daughter and I had hoped to probably see 271 00:13:30,319 --> 00:13:28,680 Rachel because I knew she should be 272 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:30,329 there at that time of the afternoon I 273 00:13:36,590 --> 00:13:32,850 stopped after my in in the afternoon 274 00:13:40,189 --> 00:13:36,600 after my job at an Air Force Base in the 275 00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:40,199 area and and so I had stayed as long as 276 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:42,660 I could and I needed to get home so I'm 277 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:45,529 standing in the doorway with my daughter 278 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:49,170 and well I wish I could have seen sort 279 00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:52,350 of met Rachel and she just then we heard 280 00:13:57,530 --> 00:13:55,470 somebody coming up the stairs the girls 281 00:14:01,040 --> 00:13:57,540 had a second floor apartment right 282 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:01,050 across the street from the junior 283 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:04,230 college that they both went to and so I 284 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:08,910 waited a minute and it was Rachel and 285 00:14:14,329 --> 00:14:12,000 yes she rushed back out towards the door 286 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,339 with the papers that she'd gotten I 287 00:14:19,220 --> 00:14:16,320 could see that she was 288 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:19,230 she had tripped and I'm not sure what on 289 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:21,510 the carpet or something but anyway she 290 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:25,110 was going to fall down and it looked 291 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:26,160 like she was going to fall right 292 00:14:33,050 --> 00:14:28,800 straight forward and she hadn't made any 293 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:33,060 effort to catch herself as we would we 294 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:35,820 foiled our arms you know to catch 295 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:37,830 yourselves on the chair or something but 296 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:40,170 she didn't and so I reached out and 297 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:42,540 grabbed her so she didn't fall right 298 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:48,410 flat on her face and as I did her sleeve 299 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:52,760 kind of pushed up on her on her arm and 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:14:57,600 I found myself holding on to her arm and 301 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:00,690 it did not feel like anything I had ever 302 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:01,710 felt before 303 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:05,010 it felt the flesh felt this one who 304 00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:09,270 can't hear - can you hear me and we can 305 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:13,230 hear you in your finder yeah - call 306 00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:15,120 Becky and try to start this out but 307 00:15:19,370 --> 00:15:16,740 please continue I don't want to 308 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:19,380 interrupt what you're saying okay 309 00:15:25,010 --> 00:15:22,260 I grabbed onto her forearm and her 310 00:15:27,770 --> 00:15:25,020 sleeve had pushed up and so I found 311 00:15:32,380 --> 00:15:27,780 myself holding on to her forearm which 312 00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:32,390 felt really cool and not at all like 313 00:15:38,540 --> 00:15:36,420 human flesh should feel and and it 314 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:38,550 shouldn't have felt cool anyway because 315 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:41,990 it was such a hot day very very hot and 316 00:15:49,690 --> 00:15:47,010 so anyway I hung on to her so she 317 00:15:52,730 --> 00:15:49,700 wouldn't fall down but that pulled her 318 00:15:56,780 --> 00:15:52,740 around so that we were sort of eyeball 319 00:15:59,450 --> 00:15:56,790 to eyeball and her at that point her 320 00:16:02,930 --> 00:15:59,460 glasses which were wraparound dark 321 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:02,940 glasses they had slipped down on her 322 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:06,540 face and I found myself looking into her 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:09,810 eyes right straight face to face looking 324 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:12,810 into her eyes and I had never seen 325 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:15,270 anything like that before either what 326 00:16:21,950 --> 00:16:19,860 color were her eyes they were like they 327 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:21,960 were a light green like the inside of an 328 00:16:29,420 --> 00:16:26,880 avocado not the the schema that put the 329 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:29,430 inside of an avocado 330 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:33,990 and the pupils were vertical black like 331 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:36,270 a cat5 oh my goodness 332 00:16:41,930 --> 00:16:39,120 now did you did that scare you and you 333 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:41,940 saw I mean that's a really unusual sight 334 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:42,630 to see 335 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:44,220 I mean somebody's eyes looking almost 336 00:16:50,769 --> 00:16:48,000 either cat-like or reptilian I didn't 337 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:50,779 make you stop breathing for a second 338 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:53,220 well I don't know about stop breathing 339 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:54,959 but I certainly was scared for a few 340 00:17:01,340 --> 00:16:57,920 minutes or a few seconds I should say 341 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:01,350 and I couldn't take my eyes off of her 342 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:06,240 but I kept looking into her eyes I could 343 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:09,600 see that she was really frightened way 344 00:17:17,049 --> 00:17:11,040 more than I was 345 00:17:20,689 --> 00:17:17,059 oh and so then we broke our gaze and 346 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:20,699 then she said something like I have to 347 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:23,480 hurry something like that and she spoke 348 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:28,040 differently than we do to she spoke very 349 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:31,830 no inflections on her words it was like 350 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:37,679 I must hurry and so then she went and I 351 00:17:42,140 --> 00:17:39,420 sort of stood there for a minute because 352 00:17:46,820 --> 00:17:42,150 I was trying to get myself back together 353 00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:46,830 right yes and so then and actually my 354 00:17:53,180 --> 00:17:50,040 daughter didn't seem to be alarmed over 355 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:53,190 this which seemed afterwards that she 356 00:18:00,020 --> 00:17:55,470 should have been a little bit but but 357 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:00,030 she wasn't so anyway I went on home and 358 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:03,929 that was how I first met Rachel what an 359 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:06,330 incredible experience so you got to see 360 00:18:11,060 --> 00:18:07,890 her up close and personal you touched 361 00:18:13,580 --> 00:18:11,070 her skin and it was cool and it didn't 362 00:18:15,710 --> 00:18:13,590 feel like human skin and you look her in 363 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:15,720 the eyes and you see these unusual 364 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:18,720 cat-like or reptilian eyes she doesn't 365 00:18:25,790 --> 00:18:20,730 talk like a normal person she has this 366 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:25,800 robotic inflection oh my goodness my 367 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:27,809 goodness what in the world did you think 368 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:31,200 after this incredible connection with 369 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:36,510 her well I had already gotten a hint of 370 00:18:41,419 --> 00:18:39,270 what I might be going to meet ya 371 00:18:42,530 --> 00:18:41,429 eventually I had a friend who worked at 372 00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:42,540 the there for 373 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:44,520 space there too he worked in security 374 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:48,060 and since I hadn't been able to meet 375 00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:50,010 Rachel right away after I heard the 376 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:51,780 stories from my daughter you know that 377 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:54,660 she was kind of unusual I I contacted 378 00:18:59,920 --> 00:18:56,880 this man because he was high up in 379 00:19:02,480 --> 00:18:59,930 civilian security and I told him what 380 00:19:05,810 --> 00:19:02,490 what was going on with me and the 381 00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:05,820 daughter and so he checked it out for me 382 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:11,640 and he he found that my suspicions were 383 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:14,820 probably right he told me where her 384 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:19,290 father the colonel Nadine had come from 385 00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:22,530 most recently and where he had acquired 386 00:19:27,380 --> 00:19:25,800 Rachel most probably and he said 387 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:27,390 whatever you thinking 388 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:31,200 is right but if you ever ask me again I 389 00:19:37,130 --> 00:19:34,320 will have to say that we have never had 390 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:37,140 this conversation because I am not 391 00:19:40,670 --> 00:19:38,700 supposed to be giving out this 392 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:40,680 information and I'm not supposed to be 393 00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:44,100 getting it in the first place so I 394 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:48,390 wasn't really surprised when I actually 395 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:51,690 saw her it just confirmed what I'd been 396 00:19:59,810 --> 00:19:54,450 told but it still didn't make it any 397 00:20:03,140 --> 00:19:59,820 easier to accept because that was not 398 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:03,150 exactly what I was expecting in a 399 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:07,050 roommate for my daughter exactly and I 400 00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:09,030 mean were you concerned for Marissa's 401 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:10,920 safety were you worried about her after 402 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:15,330 this encounter no and I wondered 403 00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:18,960 sometimes why I wasn't but actually they 404 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:21,390 had been roommates for quite a while and 405 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:25,620 well several weeks and the only thing 406 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:27,090 that my daughter had ever said about 407 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:29,790 Rachel accepted mismatched outfit was 408 00:20:32,750 --> 00:20:31,710 that they were getting along fine and 409 00:20:36,290 --> 00:20:32,760 they liked each other 410 00:20:38,890 --> 00:20:36,300 she liked Rachel so I thought well 411 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,900 nothing's happened yet 412 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:42,000 hopefully it's not going to and I didn't 413 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:44,250 know what else I could do because I 414 00:20:48,530 --> 00:20:46,590 didn't have extra money to give her to 415 00:20:52,730 --> 00:20:48,540 live by herself and and she needed 416 00:20:55,910 --> 00:20:52,740 somebody to help her anyway so I just 417 00:20:57,950 --> 00:20:55,920 sort of let it go and you had to trust 418 00:20:59,780 --> 00:20:57,960 god I guess this is there were there 419 00:21:01,790 --> 00:20:59,790 were no other options and like you said 420 00:21:03,860 --> 00:21:01,800 the girls seem to get along just fine 421 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:03,870 and there hadn't been any problems up to 422 00:21:09,650 --> 00:21:06,480 them so you were willing to let this 423 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:09,660 proceed but you must have spent a few 424 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:14,190 nights awake thinking about it yes I did 425 00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:18,570 I I did wonder about it but there was 426 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,700 really nothing I could do I was in such 427 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:23,360 a mess at home with my own life I 428 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:28,980 couldn't take her back there it was just 429 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:33,000 a situation that I look back on that's 430 00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:37,170 kind of crazy I didn't know that Rachel 431 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:39,750 might you know as far as I knew Rachel 432 00:21:46,210 --> 00:21:43,110 could harm her but I didn't think she 433 00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:46,220 would since had nothing had happened yes 434 00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:49,140 and things seemed to be going along okay 435 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:51,420 and as I said I could not take her back 436 00:21:55,970 --> 00:21:54,480 home yeah no you couldn't you know you 437 00:22:02,230 --> 00:21:55,980 had to get out of there myself 438 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:02,240 right so I looking back everything was 439 00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:05,520 was not as it should have been but it 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:08,280 all worked out okay well thank goodness 441 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:11,250 and again as you talked about in great 442 00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:13,020 detail in your book and I give you a lot 443 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:14,580 of credit because it's a hard thing to 444 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:16,290 discuss I know 445 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:18,450 PK and I were talking about this at 446 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:20,970 length that it's so difficult to be in 447 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:23,250 an abusive relationship and feel you 448 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:25,620 have no resources nowhere to go and back 449 00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:28,710 then we didn't have the resources we 450 00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:30,840 have today for women who are in 451 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:33,000 situations like that and your husband 452 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:37,550 was just so nasty my goodness what up 453 00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:41,370 horrible well the thing was he was first 454 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:43,500 a police officer and then he transferred 455 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:45,450 to Sheriff's Department in that 456 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:50,790 community we lived in and so his 457 00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:52,590 reaction was if I wanted to call the 458 00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:55,860 police go ahead I am the voice you know 459 00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:58,020 so it was that sort of an attitude that 460 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:00,600 I was dealing with so I had to watch my 461 00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:02,250 chance and then get out as soon as I 462 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:04,230 could I was gonna ask do you think you 463 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:05,730 would have made the move the way you did 464 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:09,230 had Rachel not gone forward 465 00:23:14,620 --> 00:23:11,360 I mean the wrist I had gone forward to 466 00:23:17,470 --> 00:23:14,630 make the move that she did by her 467 00:23:21,299 --> 00:23:17,480 leaving it gave you opportunity to 468 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:21,309 rethink the situation and make choices I 469 00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:25,360 would have left him as soon as I could 470 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:28,400 things along with her leaving when she 471 00:23:36,669 --> 00:23:34,460 did I I could not live that way any 472 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:36,679 longer yeah it sounded like you really 473 00:23:41,470 --> 00:23:39,049 had come to the end of your rope long 474 00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:41,480 before but without the resources to move 475 00:23:48,010 --> 00:23:44,900 and get away from this guy who is so 476 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:48,020 controlling and so abusive and you 477 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,970 really didn't have any other choices and 478 00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:52,400 thank God you did finally get out I mean 479 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,220 lots of applause to you Helen just for 480 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:56,960 that very one thing I mean there's a lot 481 00:24:01,900 --> 00:23:58,850 of women who never get out alive but you 482 00:24:04,419 --> 00:24:01,910 did know I know they don't I know they 483 00:24:07,150 --> 00:24:04,429 don't and there was one time when I 484 00:24:10,090 --> 00:24:07,160 nearly did kill him because of something 485 00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:10,100 that he had done but in the last minute 486 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:13,580 I decided not to do it god works in 487 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:22,400 strange ways doesn't he yeah you didn't 488 00:24:26,350 --> 00:24:23,750 want that on your hands but you 489 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:26,360 certainly needed to be free of it and 490 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:28,730 thank God you found your way to make 491 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:30,530 that happen I mean that's terrific now 492 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:32,690 we've got some questions here from the 493 00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:35,900 chatroom this is from Skye 33 she would 494 00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:37,460 like to he or she would like to know 495 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:39,860 could your daughter sense or feel 496 00:24:46,990 --> 00:24:42,770 something different about Rachel I think 497 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:47,000 she did I think she did but I don't 498 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:48,320 believe that she could quite put her 499 00:24:55,270 --> 00:24:54,440 finger on it because Rachel spoke so 500 00:25:00,010 --> 00:24:55,280 differently 501 00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:00,020 she spoke like a robot like like a robot 502 00:25:05,650 --> 00:25:02,870 you know no inflection no change in the 503 00:25:11,289 --> 00:25:05,660 tone of her voice and she used no 504 00:25:14,770 --> 00:25:11,299 contractions it's like she had never she 505 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:14,780 hadn't spoken English for a very long 506 00:25:21,330 --> 00:25:18,080 time although she really had it was I 507 00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:21,340 think that manner of speaking was 508 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:23,000 ingrained in her 509 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:24,710 I'm not sure that she could have ever 510 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:28,940 overcome that and well yeah and that you 511 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:33,200 also described in the book from the 512 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:36,190 Colonel's perspective Harry her father 513 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:40,640 that it was difficult for hybrids to 514 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:43,160 speak because their vocal cords were 515 00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:45,530 arranged differently their mouths were 516 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:48,380 very narrow so there was a physical 517 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:51,320 challenge to be able to speak they were 518 00:26:02,380 --> 00:25:55,610 really telepathic beings well and also 519 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:02,390 many of them their noses were almost 520 00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:04,760 like two holes there to breathe through 521 00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:09,620 and with us we use our nose to speak 522 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:11,870 that the sound comes through that too as 523 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:14,510 well as drawing off that's true that's 524 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:17,750 true so it was a physical challenge that 525 00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:21,320 she was taking on and and also just 526 00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:23,750 again getting inflection there's so much 527 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:26,360 to speech and again being purely 528 00:26:31,270 --> 00:26:28,970 telepathic beings this sounded like was 529 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:31,280 even for her frustrating that she 530 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:34,760 couldn't master this I think so I think 531 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:38,210 so and she had no fund of knowledge this 532 00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:41,870 is an ordinary teenager would have about 533 00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:46,630 oh I don't know singers or bands or 534 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:49,700 movies or anything like that she seemed 535 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,050 to be just unaware exactly now she also 536 00:26:58,750 --> 00:26:56,960 had longer arms you described in your 537 00:27:02,650 --> 00:26:58,760 book that her arms were longer than 538 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:02,660 normal very spindly and longer right and 539 00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:05,090 her legs were sort of long it seems as 540 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:07,160 though her body was shorter in 541 00:27:16,780 --> 00:27:11,810 comparison and she was sort of a thin 542 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:16,790 thin body thin arms what about her 543 00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:20,210 fingers now did she wear gloves no I 544 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:23,270 don't think she did I don't think she 545 00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:28,370 did but the thing was when during one of 546 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:33,260 my regression and I was taken back to 547 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:35,510 that first time that I saw her met her 548 00:27:41,330 --> 00:27:36,810 there in the doorway 549 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:41,340 yes that the regression is testing back 550 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:43,860 to where I could stand off and look at 551 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:47,520 her and she only had four fingers on 552 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:50,640 each hands just for now was she missing 553 00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:52,530 a thumb is that the one that was missing 554 00:27:59,300 --> 00:27:57,240 Oh sort of I guess I don't remember 555 00:28:03,500 --> 00:27:59,310 exactly how that was but they were 556 00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:03,510 pretty much I think she had what passed 557 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:06,600 for somebody longer it was the four 558 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:08,930 fingers were pretty much the same length 559 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:13,500 on each very unusual well again this 560 00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:15,870 does fit it fits the description you 561 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:18,060 know of a lot of things we've heard from 562 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:20,130 people have come forward to say they've 563 00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:22,350 met someone like this but your 564 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:24,990 experience is profoundly different and 565 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:28,200 much more personal than most of what 566 00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:30,330 we've heard this is really an up-close 567 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:33,000 and personal experience well everybody 568 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:35,730 this is a great great subject tonight we 569 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:37,320 have a wonderful guest Alan we're going 570 00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:39,630 to get Becky back on the air with us to 571 00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:41,340 further this conversation to get more 572 00:28:47,150 --> 00:28:44,580 deeply into it and again if everybody 573 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listeners 643 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,290 this is Amanda 644 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:08,480 remember you can take your inception 645 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:09,890 radio shows on the go 646 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:11,750 just download the inception Radio 647 00:32:17,170 --> 00:32:14,570 Network app for your iPhone iPad or 648 00:32:19,690 --> 00:32:17,180 Android smartphones and access live 649 00:32:21,910 --> 00:32:19,700 shows past shows guest lineups and much 650 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:21,920 more just visit the iTunes Store or the 651 00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:23,990 Google Play marketplace and download it 652 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:45,609 welcome back everyone to supernatural 653 00:32:51,249 --> 00:32:48,169 Girls radio again I am your host 654 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:51,259 Patricia Baker I am here with PK and 655 00:32:58,659 --> 00:32:55,070 with our very own abductee special 656 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:58,669 co-host tonight Becky Andreasen and our 657 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:01,519 guest helen luttrell who is the author 658 00:33:08,499 --> 00:33:05,690 of an amazing and very informational 659 00:33:11,949 --> 00:33:08,509 book called Rachel's eyes we are talking 660 00:33:14,379 --> 00:33:11,959 about aliens among us so welcome back 661 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:14,389 everyone you can call in at eight eight 662 00:33:19,989 --> 00:33:17,570 eight nine one nine two three five five 663 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:19,999 again that number is eight eight eight 664 00:33:26,049 --> 00:33:24,289 nine one nine two three five five and 665 00:33:29,829 --> 00:33:26,059 you can join us in our chat room if you 666 00:33:31,629 --> 00:33:29,839 prefer to do that so again don't be shy 667 00:33:34,899 --> 00:33:31,639 join the conversation it's a great one 668 00:33:36,609 --> 00:33:34,909 so Helen again here you are now we've 669 00:33:38,259 --> 00:33:36,619 got Becky back on the air and I know she 670 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:38,269 is just itching to ask you a million 671 00:33:43,419 --> 00:33:41,570 questions so it's again this amazing 672 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:43,429 story this amazing experience here's 673 00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:45,950 your daughter living with a very unusual 674 00:33:52,289 --> 00:33:48,549 girl who you don't know yet is a hybrid 675 00:33:58,899 --> 00:33:52,299 but you eventually find out that she is 676 00:34:04,959 --> 00:33:58,909 yes I do at least pretty sure pretty 677 00:34:08,909 --> 00:34:04,969 sure he when she came to four corners 678 00:34:13,499 --> 00:34:08,919 and colonels rescued her her care was 679 00:34:18,999 --> 00:34:13,509 medical care was kind of taken over by 680 00:34:22,749 --> 00:34:19,009 hybrid or nearly 100% alien scientist 681 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:22,759 named chicky who was there at that site 682 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:25,730 at four corners working in the medical 683 00:34:33,249 --> 00:34:30,169 lab working with some of our scientists 684 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:33,259 teaching us different things about 685 00:34:38,049 --> 00:34:35,960 cloning and and which wasn't really all 686 00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:38,059 that well known at that time because 687 00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:41,240 this was back in 1770s and seventy two 688 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:45,940 and three and he determined that she was 689 00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:52,399 probably at least two-thirds hybrid and 690 00:34:58,940 --> 00:34:55,260 so he had to come up with a 691 00:35:00,320 --> 00:34:58,950 formula that she could eat and liquid 692 00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:00,330 that she could drink which turned out to 693 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:04,790 be then what was provided for her 694 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:07,440 outside of the apartment the girls lived 695 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:09,690 in about every two weeks about it she 696 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:14,400 was to run out so it was actually his 697 00:35:21,740 --> 00:35:17,370 determination as well as the Colonel's 698 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:21,750 that he certainly wasn't he certainly 699 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:25,260 wasn't all from here because he knew 700 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,260 this because he rescued her from a craft 701 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:31,200 that had crashed at four corners and she 702 00:35:35,330 --> 00:35:32,820 was the only survivor in that crash 703 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:35,340 right right the other ones I don't 704 00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:37,650 remember now if there was two I think 705 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:39,390 there were two other ones but they died 706 00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:40,650 on impact 707 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:44,460 but she was the only one that was alive 708 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:46,470 and she really wasn't hurt very much I 709 00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:48,870 think she had a big scratch on her arm 710 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:52,020 but he knew how to heal that herself 711 00:35:59,870 --> 00:35:53,370 stop the bleeding 712 00:36:02,690 --> 00:35:59,880 and and heal it and so he took her back 713 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,700 to the medical facility to have her 714 00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:04,380 checked out like Chesky because he knew 715 00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:07,560 he would know what to do he didn't know 716 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:09,750 exactly what to do himself he knew she 717 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:15,060 wasn't from here that healing that he 718 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:17,850 used on her arm was something that she 719 00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:21,810 showed me how to do - unless it's an 720 00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:25,320 artery that cut I know how to do the 721 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:29,310 healing - and I found that's a very 722 00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:34,800 valuable thing to know now she also had 723 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:38,220 the ability not only to heal herself but 724 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:42,240 to heal other people and she gave your 725 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:44,750 daughter a gift can you talk about that 726 00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:49,200 yeah I got a phone call one day at work 727 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:53,430 and from my daughter and she was just 728 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:56,010 beside herself she had gone back to the 729 00:37:02,180 --> 00:36:59,010 apartment at noon and expected to find 730 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:02,190 Rachel there which usually was because 731 00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:05,010 their schedules were different and she 732 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:07,320 was walked in and there was no one there 733 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:08,910 and she looked 734 00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:12,720 and felt around and her eyesight was not 735 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:15,060 a hundred percent gone at that time but 736 00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:17,310 she couldn't see very well so she felt 737 00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:18,990 and looked around the best she could and 738 00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:22,160 there was none of Rachel's things there 739 00:37:28,850 --> 00:37:26,280 even bad was there and the mattress and 740 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:28,860 the dresser but that was all it was 741 00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:32,190 there of Rachel's things so none of our 742 00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:34,680 food supplies or her water supplies that 743 00:37:40,610 --> 00:37:37,320 were so unusual no that was there either 744 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:40,620 it was all gone it was all gone and she 745 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:42,570 couldn't imagine how it was because the 746 00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:45,060 things the jugs of water were like I 747 00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:47,340 don't know how big they were exactly 748 00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:49,350 they were like five gallon jugs of water 749 00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:52,020 they were really big and heavy and she 750 00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:53,460 was pretty sure Rachel couldn't left 751 00:38:01,220 --> 00:37:57,420 them so anyway she looked around and 752 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:01,230 nothing there and she said that she went 753 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,570 around and around and looking for some 754 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:06,000 little clue and there was nothing until 755 00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:08,730 she went back in a bedroom and there was 756 00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:12,030 a note taped to the dresser the newer on 757 00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:15,360 the dresser and she took it down and sat 758 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:20,150 down under the empty bed and read it and 759 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:25,680 it said I am sorry to leave you you were 760 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:28,890 my best friend but I have left you a 761 00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:29,520 gift 762 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:34,230 it was find love Rachel and then she 763 00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:36,450 realized that she had read the note 764 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,140 something that she couldn't normally do 765 00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:42,000 without her magnifying glass and even 766 00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:43,140 then it would have been very difficult 767 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:45,360 for her to do it but she didn't have the 768 00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:48,540 magnifying glass that led with her Frank 769 00:38:56,090 --> 00:38:53,070 at that time and so the gift that Rachel 770 00:38:58,940 --> 00:38:56,100 had left her was improved eyesight and 771 00:39:03,200 --> 00:38:58,950 it stayed improved until the day she 772 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:03,210 died it wasn't a hundred percent but she 773 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:05,730 could read street signs and she could 774 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,850 read a lot of things and so that was the 775 00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:10,800 gift that Rachel had given her so I 776 00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:13,860 think that was a pretty big example of 777 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:18,270 healing and what he does excuse me 778 00:39:23,470 --> 00:39:20,570 and what did you say that they 779 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:23,480 err at four corners and other places 780 00:39:30,940 --> 00:39:28,720 dealing with these hybrid annuities that 781 00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:30,950 they have the knowledge and 782 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:33,590 understanding of healing everything that 783 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:36,470 we've got going on out here or 90% of 784 00:39:43,210 --> 00:39:39,170 everything yeah it's not really so it 785 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:43,220 can be done to help those oh yes they 786 00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:44,870 had the knowledge and they were teaching 787 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:48,350 us and risky and sometimes there would 788 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,680 be another comrade of his from Zeta 789 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:54,320 Reticuli would come and they would work 790 00:40:01,120 --> 00:39:56,630 with our scientists about different 791 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:01,130 kinds of healing but as far as I know 792 00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:03,800 none of those methods came out until 793 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:05,630 just the last few years and this was 794 00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:08,810 back in 1972 and probably going on 795 00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:14,360 before that but we weren't allowed to 796 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:17,240 use those things and you weren't allowed 797 00:40:21,850 --> 00:40:19,340 to use them so they wanted them kept in 798 00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:21,860 secret they didn't want to get them out 799 00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:25,220 to the world to you know knock off these 800 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:27,230 doctor bills and these doctors that keep 801 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:29,390 on giving us stuff half the time that 802 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:32,210 isn't right for us right all right yeah 803 00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:36,530 and that proves what you say also about 804 00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:39,080 emulsion because they happen to have 805 00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:42,980 some kind of loving emotion or not to 806 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:45,200 hold this back and let people suffer out 807 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:48,110 there and that's exactly what they're 808 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:51,710 doing now and have them doing for a long 809 00:40:57,310 --> 00:40:54,130 time there's anger and emotion right 810 00:40:59,770 --> 00:40:57,320 yeah so are you saying Helen that 811 00:41:02,620 --> 00:40:59,780 they're they're holding back those 812 00:41:05,110 --> 00:41:02,630 feelings of compassion and so that 813 00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:05,120 allows us to continue to suffer and not 814 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:07,100 receive healing from them is that what 815 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:09,710 you're saying yep crying yeah I believe 816 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:12,230 that I mean it's something Becky and I 817 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:13,760 were talking about the other day we're 818 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:17,270 like geez you know there are cures there 819 00:41:21,850 --> 00:41:19,610 are treatments there are all kinds of 820 00:41:26,530 --> 00:41:21,860 things that have been withheld we firmly 821 00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:26,540 believe this and it's extremely sad to 822 00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:29,150 know that there are other ways of 823 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:32,350 dealing with illness and there are 824 00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:34,870 like Rachel maybe even more advanced and 825 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:38,380 Rachel was they can offer right they're 826 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:40,510 not allowed to or they choose not to I 827 00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:41,770 don't know which it is 828 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:44,680 I think we're not allowed to I think 829 00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:48,760 because reading your your book it seemed 830 00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:52,900 to me that all these EPS or 90% 98% of 831 00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:55,480 them are given orders in other words 832 00:42:01,620 --> 00:41:58,810 they don't have emotion which is free 833 00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:01,630 will they don't have even in there you 834 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:03,460 were stating something about them not 835 00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:04,270 having souls 836 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:06,070 well it's to have a soul you have to 837 00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:07,690 have a choice yea or nay 838 00:42:12,690 --> 00:42:10,870 so it seems like they're getting told 839 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:12,700 what to do and not releasing it so 840 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:15,070 somebody at the talk is not showing 841 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:19,120 compassion and I don't know if it's at 842 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:22,810 the top of there and so on right for the 843 00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:27,690 top of ours right a lot a little both 844 00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:31,060 well right now I have a son who has 845 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:34,150 hepatitis C and there is supposedly a 846 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:38,940 new cure out that's 98% effective and 847 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:44,160 he's under VA care but the medication is 848 00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:48,130 $1,000 per pill yeah there you go look 849 00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:50,820 at that hey the VA won't give it to him 850 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:55,480 because they only give it to those that 851 00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:57,130 are on their deathbed well what kind of 852 00:43:02,460 --> 00:42:59,530 sense is that that's right not on his 853 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,470 deathbed he needs that medication he 854 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:05,200 can't have it and we don't have the 855 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:08,050 money to spend because I think it is 84 856 00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:11,890 or 85 treatments we don't have that kind 857 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:14,980 of money right oh I don't believe all 858 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:17,980 men would step forward and do something 859 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:20,710 even my goodness look at you your life 860 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:23,170 going through in Geylang with them if 861 00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:25,480 you had something wrong or even Marissa 862 00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:28,300 why didn't they heal it I mean you've 863 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:30,790 you've sacrificed and opened up to work 864 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:32,920 with them whether you're being told to 865 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:35,590 or freely freewill work with them why 866 00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:38,140 aren't they helping I I just cannot 867 00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:41,140 imagine that that they would be so cruel 868 00:43:45,059 --> 00:43:43,420 not to help and 869 00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:45,069 sit you know there's a very good point 870 00:43:50,609 --> 00:43:46,900 in all of this and Helen in your book 871 00:43:52,890 --> 00:43:50,619 you talk about the deal that has been 872 00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:52,900 made between extraterrestrials and the 873 00:43:57,660 --> 00:43:55,780 government is something I believe is 874 00:43:59,880 --> 00:43:57,670 true because this is what I've said all 875 00:44:01,950 --> 00:43:59,890 along the reason the government doesn't 876 00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:01,960 want this to come out that 877 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:04,270 extraterrestrials UFOs are real is 878 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:07,510 because what would also come out is this 879 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:10,690 deal was made which allowed ETS 880 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:14,650 to abduct us experiment on us and use us 881 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:18,430 for their own genetic purposes so right 882 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:20,650 just think how people would react to 883 00:44:25,530 --> 00:44:23,530 that today I don't think people would be 884 00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:25,540 very happy to hear this and they 885 00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:28,180 shouldn't be because we've been sold out 886 00:44:34,740 --> 00:44:32,380 we've been sold out and that is where 887 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:34,750 the big uproar would come with the 888 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:37,420 people it's the fact that the government 889 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:39,849 sold us out it's not that the ETS are 890 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:40,510 here 891 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,290 that would be way beside the point the 892 00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:46,720 thing is our government has sold us out 893 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:49,990 is still doing it and has done it over 894 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:52,630 and over and over I don't know how long 895 00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:55,450 it's been going on really but I believe 896 00:45:01,250 --> 00:44:57,400 it's been way back in the 50s probably 897 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:01,260 before that probably back in the 40s and 898 00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:04,450 again this may be the crux of the matter 899 00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:07,119 so that when we're upset about the fact 900 00:45:11,579 --> 00:45:09,940 that they're withholding the ETS are 901 00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:11,589 withholding their own healing ability 902 00:45:17,970 --> 00:45:14,520 the government's withholding their new 903 00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:17,980 treatments etc but what the bottom line 904 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:19,990 is here according to what you wrote in 905 00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:21,730 your book and I happen to think you're 906 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:24,190 right we're just a bunch of lab rats to 907 00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:26,890 everybody both sides of this coin and 908 00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:29,140 that's why they don't care if we're 909 00:45:33,569 --> 00:45:31,299 suffering dying of cancer have 910 00:45:35,609 --> 00:45:33,579 autoimmune diseases what do they care 911 00:45:37,799 --> 00:45:35,619 we're just Lab Rats we're just all a 912 00:45:40,289 --> 00:45:37,809 part of their big genetic experiment do 913 00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,299 they care about us I don't think so and 914 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:42,000 that's what you're saying in your book 915 00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:45,640 that's right that's right well if these 916 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:49,630 ETS get off their ikki tails went out 917 00:45:54,089 --> 00:45:51,640 there and started talking with people 918 00:45:55,099 --> 00:45:54,099 and speed people I think they're they 919 00:45:58,009 --> 00:45:55,109 would create and 920 00:45:59,839 --> 00:45:58,019 motion and some compassion I'm telling 921 00:46:03,229 --> 00:45:59,849 you because it just emanates from the 922 00:46:04,729 --> 00:46:03,239 human being so and they absorb it 923 00:46:08,450 --> 00:46:04,739 different ones absorb it through their 924 00:46:10,609 --> 00:46:08,460 skin and even through their eyes I mean 925 00:46:14,299 --> 00:46:10,619 look it Isaac the doorway to the soul 926 00:46:17,029 --> 00:46:14,309 that's all you're known so that's not 927 00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:17,039 really under you decay we didn't 928 00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:19,140 understand the context of that exactly 929 00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:22,999 yeah we do you do Jackie yes thank you 930 00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:25,380 when you looked right into those eyes 931 00:46:31,819 --> 00:46:28,920 and right Oh everybody exactly know what 932 00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:31,829 we were seeing I mean we knew it was not 933 00:46:40,249 --> 00:46:33,660 of this world 934 00:46:42,259 --> 00:46:40,259 right we didn't know the depth of the 935 00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:42,269 meaning of what we were seeing that's 936 00:46:48,859 --> 00:46:45,839 right and it is great it is great what 937 00:46:50,749 --> 00:46:48,869 people and God bless you more people 938 00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:50,759 need to come out and tell their stories 939 00:46:55,249 --> 00:46:52,859 and let people know what is really going 940 00:46:58,099 --> 00:46:55,259 on because it will do nothing but 941 00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,109 benefit the earth I mean even if they 942 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:00,660 knew this like a tall dark the taller 943 00:47:04,819 --> 00:47:02,730 greys you know some people say that 944 00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:04,829 they're good some say that they're bad 945 00:47:09,319 --> 00:47:07,079 well let people speak about it so that 946 00:47:11,779 --> 00:47:09,329 we really get a good you know get a good 947 00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:11,789 deal ear going and find out who do we 948 00:47:16,789 --> 00:47:13,950 trust who do we know what are their 949 00:47:18,499 --> 00:47:16,799 experiences and and then do something 950 00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:18,509 about it be able to do something about 951 00:47:25,339 --> 00:47:18,900 it 952 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:25,349 really shameful because if you're if 953 00:47:29,539 --> 00:47:27,569 you're a real true human with a soul 954 00:47:32,509 --> 00:47:29,549 then you would love your brothers and 955 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:32,519 sisters your humanity and even others 956 00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:36,329 that were created out there right but 957 00:47:42,589 --> 00:47:39,900 the thing is well it's not quite 958 00:47:47,749 --> 00:47:42,599 changing the subject here but look at 959 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:47,759 how many years we were not well we were 960 00:47:52,249 --> 00:47:50,130 afraid to come forward right say 961 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:52,259 anything about it then I'm sure your mom 962 00:47:58,279 --> 00:47:54,930 well yeah same way I'm not too familiar 963 00:48:02,269 --> 00:47:58,289 with her story I'm sorry to to say but 964 00:48:05,569 --> 00:48:02,279 but I am you know basically and I I'm 965 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,579 sure that she didn't start talking to 966 00:48:09,250 --> 00:48:07,920 people about it for a while because the 967 00:48:14,109 --> 00:48:09,260 people would roll their 968 00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:14,119 right alright buddy Nolan Halsey mondo 969 00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:18,060 know more about really understanding but 970 00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:20,430 that was me for a long time yeah that 971 00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:22,680 was afraid I'd lose my job yeah well 972 00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:25,080 then how where'd that it that turned out 973 00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:25,740 to be 974 00:48:30,740 --> 00:48:28,440 I discovered that well this was just 975 00:48:31,820 --> 00:48:30,750 before I decided to write the book you 976 00:48:34,940 --> 00:48:31,830 know I was kind of back and forth 977 00:48:38,810 --> 00:48:34,950 whether I would do it or not and I'm 978 00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:38,820 sure that everybody you know they would 979 00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:40,470 think it was crazy and fire me 980 00:48:46,550 --> 00:48:44,460 welcome to find out there was probably 981 00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:46,560 at least 75% of the people that worked 982 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:48,900 at that clinic but I was so concerned 983 00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:50,490 about they all believed in the same 984 00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:51,960 thing that they didn't dare say much 985 00:48:56,540 --> 00:48:53,940 about it right they were afraid they'd 986 00:48:58,580 --> 00:48:56,550 get fired well that won't be it they did 987 00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:58,590 over the years they installed fear in us 988 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:01,500 and disinformation in us and things like 989 00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,810 that so when people come out and they 990 00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:06,000 let them know the truth the more that 991 00:49:10,099 --> 00:49:08,070 the truth comes out the more it cracks 992 00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:10,109 that darkness and the light is shining 993 00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:11,880 through and people will see and 994 00:49:16,670 --> 00:49:14,430 understand and learn and it's fantastic 995 00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:16,680 even even like this without saying too 996 00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,740 much with you and Marissa and Rachel and 997 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:21,839 the kernel and even some of them at the 998 00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:24,510 base I mean if people really want to 999 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,670 know the truth it's almost like a family 1000 00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:29,040 affair isn't it it's true didn't a 1001 00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:31,830 through the lines it's true humans here 1002 00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:35,310 because they're becoming part of us yeah 1003 00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:37,560 question is why you know why are they 1004 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,420 experimenting on us like this and 1005 00:49:46,099 --> 00:49:42,000 they're certainly manipulating DNA 1006 00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:46,109 they're manipulating people and what is 1007 00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:48,359 what is the reason I mean is it for 1008 00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:52,560 their sake is it for our sake none of 1009 00:49:59,380 --> 00:49:54,240 this is clear to me do you have any 1010 00:50:02,839 --> 00:49:59,390 answers on that Helen not really because 1011 00:50:05,690 --> 00:50:02,849 any answer we come up with doesn't make 1012 00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:05,700 any sense if we say well it's to protect 1013 00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:09,390 us well we need the knowledge that they 1014 00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:13,560 could give us to help us and not keep it 1015 00:50:18,980 --> 00:50:15,660 from us I don't know what what the 1016 00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:18,990 answer is yeah it's it's a very strange 1017 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:21,830 the whole thing is so strange and so 1018 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:26,040 filled with again lots of fog here 1019 00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:28,650 there's not a lot of clarity and they've 1020 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:30,030 done a good job at sending out 1021 00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:31,770 disinformation so we don't know what's 1022 00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:35,280 what but I think we need like a petition 1023 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:37,080 or something a Facebook page something 1024 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:39,570 that says stop the abductions until we 1025 00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:41,130 know what's going why are you abducting 1026 00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:42,510 us why are you taking us while you're 1027 00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:44,430 doing experiments why are you having our 1028 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:48,240 our women give birth to your babies and 1029 00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:49,530 then you take them from these women 1030 00:50:55,340 --> 00:50:51,240 there's story after story after story 1031 00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:55,350 about this and what's the purpose of it 1032 00:51:00,050 --> 00:50:57,720 you know I have to say that with your 1033 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:00,060 story with Rachel's eyes and again that 1034 00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:02,820 book is available on amazon.com you guys 1035 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:04,350 if you're interested in this subject you 1036 00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:07,050 need to read it it's a great book filled 1037 00:51:11,110 --> 00:51:08,940 with a lot more information than we're 1038 00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:11,120 going to be able to get to tonight but 1039 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:13,800 you're the first person to bring this 1040 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:18,770 forward in a way that made Rachel's so I 1041 00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:22,470 guess human to me I really felt badly 1042 00:51:29,450 --> 00:51:25,470 for her you know that she was struggling 1043 00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:29,460 she was trying to to become more human 1044 00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:32,760 and more accepted to speak differently 1045 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:35,790 walk differently and and I'm sure she 1046 00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:37,410 was filled with frustration from what 1047 00:51:42,590 --> 00:51:39,720 you even saw that she wasn't quite 1048 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:42,600 making the mark no she wasn't 1049 00:51:49,460 --> 00:51:45,660 and I felt sorry for her and and I liked 1050 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:49,470 her I felt some kind of a kinship with 1051 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:52,650 her and I I truthfully can I tell you 1052 00:52:04,150 --> 00:51:56,850 why I would accept that I may have had a 1053 00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:04,160 part in her creation but I felt 1054 00:52:09,740 --> 00:52:07,110 compassion for her I guess that would be 1055 00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:09,750 a good thing a good way discrete emotion 1056 00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,390 yeah and it sounds like she she had that 1057 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:14,280 for your daughter and that's why she 1058 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:17,490 gave her that gift of her psyche being 1059 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:19,890 returned to her now as Becky pointed out 1060 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:22,500 she also did not heal her of the 1061 00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:24,810 diabetes which was a devastating disease 1062 00:52:29,420 --> 00:52:27,030 in her life that didn't she didn't 1063 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:29,430 change that but she did give her her 1064 00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,910 sight back and maybe that was the best 1065 00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:34,400 that she could do 1066 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:37,940 and right points I know yes Rachel could 1067 00:52:45,250 --> 00:52:41,810 do right right but that was a huge huge 1068 00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:45,260 improvement oh yeah I never met a girl 1069 00:52:51,820 --> 00:52:48,680 like that incredible illness never fully 1070 00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:51,830 sighted but it was to the point where 1071 00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:53,390 she could finish up her college 1072 00:53:01,420 --> 00:52:57,020 education and get the job that she was 1073 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:01,430 seeking and she did just fine for a long 1074 00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:05,570 time a long time and so I do think 1075 00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:07,550 Rachel did the best that she could 1076 00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:12,440 yes and yes you know I feel good yeah as 1077 00:53:19,210 --> 00:53:15,080 a way that she died and was all Nina 1078 00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:19,220 father both had to be taken out you know 1079 00:53:26,830 --> 00:53:23,900 I mean not taken out isn't killed taken 1080 00:53:29,860 --> 00:53:26,840 out of the area to where everything went 1081 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:29,870 and I have no idea where the colonel 1082 00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:33,290 might be these days even if he's alive I 1083 00:53:41,110 --> 00:53:38,180 don't know now you talk about Helen in 1084 00:53:42,850 --> 00:53:41,120 your book that Rachel was actually not 1085 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:42,860 only did she die me she was murdered 1086 00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:46,900 yeah she was she was by our government 1087 00:53:53,890 --> 00:53:51,200 yes I mean she even made it at first 1088 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:53,900 down here I mean a lot of the crashes 1089 00:53:59,830 --> 00:53:57,250 that were spoken of and the colonel 1090 00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:59,840 first was wondering what was going on 1091 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:01,270 and then realized later 1092 00:54:05,770 --> 00:54:04,010 we're shooting them down so it's amazing 1093 00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:05,780 Rachel even made it at the very 1094 00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:09,680 beginning this is true and I realized 1095 00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:12,350 later I mean over the years intervening 1096 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:15,830 here is that possibly some of those 1097 00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:18,850 crashes and maybe most of them were 1098 00:54:25,060 --> 00:54:21,100 result of interference with their 1099 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:25,070 systems yeah by our radio the radio that 1100 00:54:29,590 --> 00:54:27,890 they had there at four corners I'm not 1101 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,600 sure because probably some of them were 1102 00:54:35,610 --> 00:54:32,240 shot down but I do think probably the 1103 00:54:38,260 --> 00:54:35,620 radar just more or less innocently 1104 00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:38,270 interfered with it for yeah I was 1105 00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:40,310 thinking I couldn't date you know like 1106 00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:43,460 on the Jetsons the cartoonist put up a 1107 00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:45,140 knight without power and let him land 1108 00:54:48,569 --> 00:54:45,640 and come 1109 00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,579 some kind of elevator thing I really 1110 00:54:57,630 --> 00:54:50,319 would have enough brains to think about 1111 00:54:59,099 --> 00:54:57,640 that you would think yes but well I you 1112 00:55:01,519 --> 00:54:59,109 know and what I think it was Patricia 1113 00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:01,529 was reading about something during the 1114 00:55:09,930 --> 00:55:04,440 last part there or the other show is 1115 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:09,940 reading about some aliens or hybrids 1116 00:55:16,349 --> 00:55:13,930 I guess that are here among us I mean in 1117 00:55:19,710 --> 00:55:16,359 my own town and fraid to tell anybody 1118 00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:19,720 because and I know they were because I 1119 00:55:25,979 --> 00:55:23,710 think lensses yeah yes yeah you know 1120 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:25,989 there and recognize them right it's 1121 00:55:29,789 --> 00:55:27,970 still there that the consequences are 1122 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:29,799 still there it hasn't been rectified yet 1123 00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:31,930 so that you know people aren't 1124 00:55:37,650 --> 00:55:34,420 threatened or hurt or all the things 1125 00:55:39,509 --> 00:55:37,660 come up missing I am in that totally and 1126 00:55:42,059 --> 00:55:39,519 that's what I'm saying that's the 1127 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:42,069 greatest thing that they're using their 1128 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:46,569 tool against humanity is fear I know and 1129 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:49,210 now I step on it yeah here's the thing 1130 00:55:54,269 --> 00:55:51,130 how about this you know what I think 1131 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:54,279 aliens extraterrestrials only the nice 1132 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,890 ones she should come and make contact 1133 00:56:00,900 --> 00:55:58,960 with us individually we up until this 1134 00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:00,910 point it seems like when they make 1135 00:56:05,009 --> 00:56:03,430 contact with us then we're the lab rats 1136 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:05,019 but what about instead of going through 1137 00:56:10,859 --> 00:56:07,450 the military who is not really friendly 1138 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,869 to them in all ways what about coming to 1139 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:12,960 us what about imparting knowledge 1140 00:56:18,809 --> 00:56:16,210 teaching us telepathy teaching us how to 1141 00:56:21,479 --> 00:56:18,819 heal ourselves with our minds the way 1142 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:21,489 they can what about that how come that's 1143 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:23,410 not being done everything being filtered 1144 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:25,690 through the military and our government 1145 00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:28,569 is so problematic right because we could 1146 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:32,470 pass it forward right right that's right 1147 00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:35,650 and for some reason either the 1148 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:37,089 government well of course the government 1149 00:56:42,269 --> 00:56:39,609 does not want that to happen but for 1150 00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:42,279 some reason maybe the aliens don't want 1151 00:56:46,890 --> 00:56:45,369 to stay there or maybe it's maybe it's 1152 00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:46,900 some agreement they have with the 1153 00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:49,420 government I don't know sometimes when I 1154 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,089 really stop and think about it then I 1155 00:56:59,340 --> 00:56:55,359 get totally confused what it could be 1156 00:57:01,260 --> 00:56:59,350 because there are so many possibilities 1157 00:57:03,390 --> 00:57:01,270 and some of them don't make any sense 1158 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:03,400 that's right because they even told my 1159 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:06,310 mom there's 70 different races coming 1160 00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:08,770 and going here on earth 70 different 1161 00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:11,350 races and you verified that with even 1162 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:13,030 the word with the kernel saying all the 1163 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,410 different types that were coming and 1164 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:16,240 going some he liked some he didn't like 1165 00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:18,610 you know like that so I mean that even 1166 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:22,260 verified what my mom was told long ago 1167 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:25,510 well no excuse me I don't mean to 1168 00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:26,710 interrupt but we're gonna have to take a 1169 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:28,420 break in just a couple of seconds here 1170 00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:30,250 but again I wanted to announce to our 1171 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,020 audience if you have a question for 1172 00:57:37,650 --> 00:57:34,960 Helen luttrell or Becky Andreasen please 1173 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:37,660 go ahead call in eight eight eight nine 1174 00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:40,510 one nine two three five five again 1175 00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:42,880 that's eight eight eight nine one nine 1176 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:46,300 two three five five Helen's book is 1177 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:48,970 called Rachel's eyes and it is available 1178 00:57:56,670 --> 00:57:53,710 on amazon.com and and also if you want 1179 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:56,680 to reach Helen directly please Helen 1180 00:58:01,740 --> 00:57:58,450 give us your email address so people can 1181 00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:01,750 write to you okay and you could read you 1182 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:03,790 could purchase a signed copy of the book 1183 00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:08,800 if you email me at book lady H L at 1184 00:58:17,610 --> 00:58:12,460 aol.com and that H is in Helen again 1185 00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:17,620 that is book lady H L at aol.com and 1186 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:20,260 I'll respond immediately that's great 1187 00:58:23,580 --> 00:58:21,910 and you may have a story out there 1188 00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:23,590 anybody in the audience who wants to 1189 00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,140 share their personal story with Helen or 1190 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:28,240 maybe you know the colonel and you can 1191 00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:32,320 update Helen whereabouts and what he's 1192 00:58:35,820 --> 00:58:34,180 been doing maybe he'll come forward and 1193 00:58:37,340 --> 00:58:35,830 come on our show sometime wouldn't that 1194 00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:37,350 be wonderful 1195 00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:40,540 yes it would it would be great it would 1196 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:43,390 be great now we have a we have a lot 1197 00:58:48,090 --> 00:58:45,250 more to talk about in your book it's 1198 00:58:49,590 --> 00:58:48,100 just filled with great information we've 1199 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:49,600 got to talk about the men in black those 1200 00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:52,090 strange cars you saw those guys that 1201 00:58:58,650 --> 00:58:53,830 look like they didn't come from our time 1202 00:59:01,920 --> 00:58:58,660 I mean there's yeah girl yeah we got so 1203 00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:01,930 much to say here tonight oh my goodness 1204 00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:04,540 all right everybody stay tuned we will 1205 00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:07,030 be right back or on supernatural girls 1206 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:23,250 you're listening to IRA the inception 1207 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:36,250 radio network hi inception radio network 1208 00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:38,410 listeners this is Amanda just a reminder 1209 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:40,420 that inception radio network is on 1210 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:43,690 Twitter follow us at I underscore our 1211 00:59:48,120 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Virginia 1253 01:02:06,190 --> 01:02:02,480 Becky Andreasen our very own abductee 1254 01:02:08,349 --> 01:02:06,200 and we have a terrific guest who we've 1255 01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:08,359 been talking to about some really 1256 01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:11,150 fascinating things you all need to know 1257 01:02:17,740 --> 01:02:14,390 about alien hybrids and aliens among us 1258 01:02:19,810 --> 01:02:17,750 Howlin Latrell who is the author of a 1259 01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:19,820 fascinating book called Rachel's eyes 1260 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:23,420 which you can buy on amazon.com you can 1261 01:02:31,329 --> 01:02:27,280 also reach Helen directly at book lady 1262 01:02:34,210 --> 01:02:31,339 h-l at aol.com if you want to call in 1263 01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:34,220 and speak with Becky or Helen Colin at 1264 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:37,190 eight eight eight nine one nine two 1265 01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:40,730 three five five oh my god what a show 1266 01:02:44,050 --> 01:02:42,560 tonight this one I'm gonna be up 1267 01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:44,060 thinking about this all night you go 1268 01:02:52,109 --> 01:02:48,040 what do you think fabulous information 1269 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:52,119 it's just so much going on all around us 1270 01:02:57,550 --> 01:02:55,130 involving us involving Becky and Becky's 1271 01:02:59,500 --> 01:02:57,560 family and Helen and Helen's family but 1272 01:03:03,640 --> 01:02:59,510 we got to move to the men in black Helen 1273 01:03:07,380 --> 01:03:03,650 what happened with a men in black well 1274 01:03:11,710 --> 01:03:07,390 one day I was going to visit the girls 1275 01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:11,720 specifically my daughter and I was going 1276 01:03:17,170 --> 01:03:13,940 up the stairs to their apartment and as 1277 01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:17,180 I was about halfway up the stairs I saw 1278 01:03:23,530 --> 01:03:21,200 coming down from the top three men in 1279 01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:23,540 black and I know that sounds kind of 1280 01:03:29,470 --> 01:03:27,260 hokey but they were the typical men and 1281 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:29,480 black that was that we talk about they 1282 01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:32,210 were they just didn't look like they 1283 01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:36,200 belong in this timeframe somehow their 1284 01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:39,020 complexions were kind of white and tasty 1285 01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:42,880 looking and kind of fat old faces and 1286 01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:46,750 but they weren't fat men but they were 1287 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:49,280 they were dressed all in black and they 1288 01:03:54,579 --> 01:03:52,490 had black fedoras on which is not the 1289 01:03:56,620 --> 01:03:54,589 style even in the 70s I don't know when 1290 01:03:59,980 --> 01:03:56,630 they were in spell but a long time 1291 01:04:03,849 --> 01:03:59,990 before that but they gave me 1292 01:04:06,070 --> 01:04:03,859 sign that they were going to somebody 1293 01:04:08,050 --> 01:04:06,080 step aside so that I could continue on 1294 01:04:11,170 --> 01:04:08,060 up the stairs they came down three 1295 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:11,180 abreast and just stomping on down very 1296 01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:15,050 deliberately and they looked at me but 1297 01:04:21,609 --> 01:04:18,140 it seemed to me that they sort of looked 1298 01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:21,619 through me at the same time as like like 1299 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:24,950 I wasn't really there but at any rate I 1300 01:04:28,930 --> 01:04:26,330 knew that they weren't going to move 1301 01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:28,940 aside for me so I had to turn sideways 1302 01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:31,369 and press up against the wall so that 1303 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:34,609 they could go by me and I could continue 1304 01:04:42,700 --> 01:04:40,250 on up but they were they were not I just 1305 01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:42,710 didn't feel that they were exactly real 1306 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:44,630 I don't know if they're hybrids or 1307 01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:47,810 they're robots or androids or what in 1308 01:04:54,250 --> 01:04:49,849 the world they were but they didn't look 1309 01:04:55,870 --> 01:04:54,260 like real people and yeah I think they I 1310 01:04:58,810 --> 01:04:55,880 think you're right they are from long 1311 01:05:01,000 --> 01:04:58,820 ago like when we were talking now I was 1312 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:01,010 telling you what I felt about the men in 1313 01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:03,770 black were when the ETS came here long 1314 01:05:09,460 --> 01:05:06,670 ago they didn't probably understand 1315 01:05:10,930 --> 01:05:09,470 governments and people and the different 1316 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:10,940 things going on until they learned a 1317 01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:12,290 little bit more and they needed their 1318 01:05:17,020 --> 01:05:15,380 own soldiers and I think that is what 1319 01:05:20,530 --> 01:05:17,030 the men in black are today they're 1320 01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:20,540 soldiers delivery boys soldiers whatever 1321 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,500 is needed well they were sort of that 1322 01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:27,200 delivery boys or whatever or checkers 1323 01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:29,270 because they came every two or three 1324 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:32,470 weeks to check on Rachel's progress and 1325 01:05:40,060 --> 01:05:38,510 when they came which she seemed to 1326 01:05:43,150 --> 01:05:40,070 always know when it would be but it 1327 01:05:44,740 --> 01:05:43,160 could be different times of day come at 1328 01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:44,750 me in the morning one time the afternoon 1329 01:05:52,180 --> 01:05:48,710 the next Marissa would have to leave 1330 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:52,190 they would tell her and Rachel right 1331 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:54,410 there that sounds like a form of a 1332 01:06:00,750 --> 01:05:57,890 soldier a command right and I don't know 1333 01:06:04,290 --> 01:06:00,760 what they did and she would never tell 1334 01:06:06,970 --> 01:06:04,300 Marissa exactly what they did but I I 1335 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:06,980 don't know it was my assumption that 1336 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:11,810 possibly they did some medical tests on 1337 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:13,310 her or 1338 01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:16,370 I really don't know they the time that I 1339 01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:18,710 saw them they were not caring like any 1340 01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:21,110 medical kits or anything you weren't 1341 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:22,550 carrying anything but they could have 1342 01:06:26,770 --> 01:06:24,650 had stuff in their pockets too right 1343 01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:26,780 under those big black coats I wouldn't 1344 01:06:30,850 --> 01:06:28,880 doubt it for one single minute and you 1345 01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,860 know what I just got as a piece of 1346 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:32,720 information I'll share for what it's 1347 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:35,570 worth is that they were checking to make 1348 01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:37,250 sure she hadn't revealed anything to 1349 01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:42,340 yeah because let's think about this if 1350 01:06:46,740 --> 01:06:44,750 you fast forward to the time when 1351 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:46,750 Marissa comes back to the apartment and 1352 01:06:51,790 --> 01:06:49,250 Rachel's gone and there's no trace of 1353 01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:51,800 her that came on the heels of the 1354 01:06:57,790 --> 01:06:55,280 meeting you guys had with Rachel and her 1355 01:07:02,110 --> 01:06:57,800 father where things were revealed oh 1356 01:07:05,290 --> 01:07:02,120 yeah irrigation yeah so they must have 1357 01:07:06,670 --> 01:07:05,300 felt like that was a line across that 1358 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:06,680 was crossed and they weren't going to 1359 01:07:10,810 --> 01:07:08,510 allow that and then remove the kernel 1360 01:07:13,810 --> 01:07:10,820 and Rachel was just too bad because 1361 01:07:15,790 --> 01:07:13,820 again they had Rachel had developed a 1362 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:15,800 real personal relationship with you and 1363 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:18,530 your daughter especially and the kid 1364 01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:21,770 sounds like that was frowned upon right 1365 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:27,280 you're not supposed to be any level of 1366 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:31,130 real friendship because I suppose if 1367 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:35,650 that line was crossed then you might 1368 01:07:41,350 --> 01:07:37,970 accidentally or not reveal information 1369 01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:41,360 that you shouldn't so that's that's not 1370 01:07:46,270 --> 01:07:44,000 being able to handle or control emotion 1371 01:07:47,860 --> 01:07:46,280 in other words they may wonder is it too 1372 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:47,870 much of that because then she may 1373 01:07:53,410 --> 01:07:51,410 overflow right and that was that was 1374 01:07:56,620 --> 01:07:53,420 that and yet she was supposed to achieve 1375 01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:56,630 a certain amount of emotion right but I 1376 01:08:03,330 --> 01:07:59,170 was never sure exactly how much that was 1377 01:08:08,290 --> 01:08:03,340 apparently you know she crossed the line 1378 01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:08,300 and the kernel too because he was he was 1379 01:08:15,790 --> 01:08:10,960 a friendly person and he he seems nice 1380 01:08:18,910 --> 01:08:15,800 to me you know interested in in both 1381 01:08:21,490 --> 01:08:18,920 girls and he really had a desire for her 1382 01:08:23,020 --> 01:08:21,500 to stay within the apartment right with 1383 01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:23,030 your daughter and he was just afraid 1384 01:08:26,949 --> 01:08:26,510 that now that your daughter knew Marisa 1385 01:08:29,859 --> 01:08:26,959 knew 1386 01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:29,869 something of the truth about Rachel that 1387 01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:31,670 she wouldn't want her there anymore but 1388 01:08:38,410 --> 01:08:33,769 in fact your daughter was so loving and 1389 01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:38,420 so open hearted that she let Rachel know 1390 01:08:44,649 --> 01:08:40,670 in no uncertain terms that she was 1391 01:08:48,729 --> 01:08:44,659 totally welcome there oh yeah and and 1392 01:08:51,009 --> 01:08:48,739 then she was removed so I you know they 1393 01:08:54,669 --> 01:08:51,019 put Rachel in an impossible situation 1394 01:08:56,289 --> 01:08:54,679 absolutely what a surprise I think that 1395 01:08:58,269 --> 01:08:56,299 they did that to her it's a horrible 1396 01:09:02,199 --> 01:08:58,279 horrible thing she could only fail 1397 01:09:04,029 --> 01:09:02,209 because the the parameters were were not 1398 01:09:06,249 --> 01:09:04,039 what they should have been and they 1399 01:09:08,559 --> 01:09:06,259 forced her into a corner there was no 1400 01:09:11,140 --> 01:09:08,569 way for her nowhere for her to turn how 1401 01:09:13,469 --> 01:09:11,150 sad for all of us that we missed out on 1402 01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:13,479 an opportunity with Rachel because of 1403 01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:16,159 these restrictions that were placed on 1404 01:09:24,099 --> 01:09:21,049 her these that are out among us now as 1405 01:09:26,679 --> 01:09:24,109 you say and others say I don't see them 1406 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:26,689 coming to people and saying look I'm 1407 01:09:32,979 --> 01:09:30,170 really dis and showing our proof of of 1408 01:09:36,189 --> 01:09:32,989 it or whatever it's almost like you know 1409 01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,199 both sides are stopping both sides for 1410 01:09:41,309 --> 01:09:38,239 doing what they say they want to do but 1411 01:09:44,259 --> 01:09:41,319 they're not doing it yeah that's right 1412 01:09:46,769 --> 01:09:44,269 and the men in black it sounds like our 1413 01:09:49,569 --> 01:09:46,779 soldiers Becky like you said that are 1414 01:09:52,509 --> 01:09:49,579 keeping everybody in line and going and 1415 01:09:54,069 --> 01:09:52,519 because they've shown up I've had people 1416 01:09:56,649 --> 01:09:54,079 contact me and tell me about their 1417 01:10:00,429 --> 01:09:56,659 personal stories in fact Becky your mom 1418 01:10:02,770 --> 01:10:00,439 and and Bob had experiences with men in 1419 01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:02,780 black and they were not pleasant so 1420 01:10:09,029 --> 01:10:05,510 these guys are out to intimidate us and 1421 01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:09,039 scare us and put us off our game and 1422 01:10:12,759 --> 01:10:11,360 again the other thing that's weird that 1423 01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:12,769 I got to bring up because we talked 1424 01:10:17,799 --> 01:10:14,420 about this on the break around the 1425 01:10:19,660 --> 01:10:17,809 cement and black thing the black car can 1426 01:10:24,179 --> 01:10:19,670 you talk to us about that part is a 1427 01:10:27,819 --> 01:10:24,189 picture of any book yes there is and I 1428 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:27,829 was just amazed when I saw this car at a 1429 01:10:33,549 --> 01:10:31,280 car show and local car show right in 1430 01:10:36,729 --> 01:10:33,559 this little town I couldn't believe it 1431 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:36,739 and it was exactly the same thing and it 1432 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:39,650 had funny-looking headlights that 1433 01:10:42,669 --> 01:10:40,610 doesn't 1434 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:42,679 justic are the men in black drove up to 1435 01:10:52,899 --> 01:10:46,130 your daughter's apartment with yes okay 1436 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:52,909 I had seen it there before but trying to 1437 01:10:59,169 --> 01:10:54,650 think when I did see I thought they are 1438 01:11:02,709 --> 01:10:59,179 two or three times before but I didn't 1439 01:11:06,729 --> 01:11:02,719 see the men in black those times whether 1440 01:11:10,419 --> 01:11:06,739 they were visiting someone else in the 1441 01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:10,429 complex my god I did I'd have thought of 1442 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:12,710 that yeah it certainly could have been 1443 01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:18,770 yeah I had some clothes yeah it was it 1444 01:11:23,410 --> 01:11:20,719 was exactly the same car when I saw the 1445 01:11:25,930 --> 01:11:23,420 one at the car show and well maybe not 1446 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:25,940 the identical one but but this one that 1447 01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:31,489 I saw at the show was the parks had a 1448 01:11:35,919 --> 01:11:34,070 serial number or date or something it 1449 01:11:39,970 --> 01:11:35,929 was a government car and it was 1450 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:39,980 manufactured in the early 30s 31 or 32 1451 01:11:46,689 --> 01:11:43,730 and it was definitely a government car 1452 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:46,699 it was just like brand-new beautiful 1453 01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:49,130 inside of course the owner maybe had 1454 01:11:56,350 --> 01:11:51,409 restored that I don't know but the 1455 01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,360 engine was original there was nothing 1456 01:12:01,810 --> 01:11:58,880 done to it so there couldn't have been 1457 01:12:05,109 --> 01:12:01,820 too many miles on it but I was talking 1458 01:12:09,209 --> 01:12:05,119 to the owner about sort of about the men 1459 01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:09,219 in black not too much detail but he said 1460 01:12:14,370 --> 01:12:12,080 that could all have been rebuilt and 1461 01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:14,380 made to look like it was the original 1462 01:12:24,609 --> 01:12:21,520 engine that's true so I don't know but 1463 01:12:30,850 --> 01:12:24,619 that in itself just gave me the chills 1464 01:12:33,010 --> 01:12:30,860 when I whenever I would see it you know 1465 01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:33,020 all of these things that there's just 1466 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:35,510 not adding up as to what the endgame is 1467 01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,330 here and it feels like we're all pawns 1468 01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:40,880 you even found that you may have as you 1469 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:43,310 mentioned and people will need to get 1470 01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:45,530 your book Rachael's eyes to get all the 1471 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:47,540 details on this but that you may have 1472 01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:50,960 had abductions and your DNA may have 1473 01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:53,490 been altered oh yeah 1474 01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:56,340 had abductions I know I know that for 1475 01:13:02,030 --> 01:12:56,820 sure 1476 01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:02,040 and I I do not know but a friend of mine 1477 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:03,870 brought it up to me just within the last 1478 01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:05,970 week that during the month one of my 1479 01:13:14,660 --> 01:13:11,040 last abductions I had a mark put on the 1480 01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:14,670 outside of my right lower leg just above 1481 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:17,790 the ankle it was a square mark five 1482 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:20,400 eighths of an inch square with little 1483 01:13:30,020 --> 01:13:27,120 tiny of pinpoint marks going pours from 1484 01:13:32,210 --> 01:13:30,030 corner to corner each each way so they 1485 01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:32,220 were going diagonally that's what I was 1486 01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:35,550 looking for and it didn't heal and 1487 01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,300 didn't heal it never hurt although it 1488 01:13:43,070 --> 01:13:41,280 was put on with something that felt like 1489 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:43,080 a branding iron it was something 1490 01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:45,810 electrical I thought it took the skin 1491 01:13:51,410 --> 01:13:48,780 off and just left that red underlying 1492 01:13:54,730 --> 01:13:51,420 layer there that did not heal for a long 1493 01:13:59,060 --> 01:13:54,740 time but this friend of mine said that 1494 01:14:03,800 --> 01:13:59,070 possibly there was an implant put in 1495 01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:03,810 there somehow and maybe I was being 1496 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:07,260 monitored through that implant I had not 1497 01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:10,290 really thought of that before I could 1498 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:12,900 they yeah I think so at people that are 1499 01:14:17,420 --> 01:14:15,570 involved with the et world and and the 1500 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:17,430 government and things like that I think 1501 01:14:23,210 --> 01:14:21,090 they're all implanted all of them I mean 1502 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:23,220 how else is gonna keep track of them I 1503 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:25,170 think they're implanted whether it's the 1504 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:27,930 ET implant or a government implant I 1505 01:14:32,690 --> 01:14:29,610 think anyone involved with this 1506 01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:32,700 throughout their lives and and it starts 1507 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:34,500 to come out and everything they want to 1508 01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:36,090 know what's going on want to know where 1509 01:14:42,050 --> 01:14:39,510 you were I want to know which ETS are 1510 01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:42,060 being in touch with you coming or going 1511 01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:45,120 or even in dimensions because it's not 1512 01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:47,550 only et's from other worlds as dimension 1513 01:14:52,750 --> 01:14:50,400 then they walk through you know so oh 1514 01:14:56,420 --> 01:14:52,760 yeah I think that's keep tabs on 1515 01:14:58,610 --> 01:14:56,430 absolutely on both sides and again that 1516 01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:58,620 brings us that brings us back to being 1517 01:15:01,670 --> 01:14:59,250 lab rats 1518 01:15:04,970 --> 01:15:01,680 I mean we're no different than a lab rat 1519 01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,980 with a tracking chip again let's you 1520 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:06,960 except for people that 1521 01:15:12,350 --> 01:15:09,570 like if you don't really want it you 1522 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:12,360 should have the free will given to us at 1523 01:15:18,260 --> 01:15:15,330 birth on this earth to say no and be 1524 01:15:26,180 --> 01:15:18,270 left alone but a lot of that what I've 1525 01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:26,190 been seeing isn't happening yeah I was 1526 01:15:32,180 --> 01:15:29,760 just taking and this was done to me and 1527 01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:32,190 then I was delivered back into my bed 1528 01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:34,470 yeah I think honey that's because it's 1529 01:15:38,540 --> 01:15:36,360 been in your DNA through your family 1530 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:38,550 line down past through great 1531 01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:41,010 grandparents aunts uncles cousins all 1532 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:44,070 the way down and they never lose track 1533 01:15:50,450 --> 01:15:47,730 of family lines they go up to they get a 1534 01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:50,460 human that has all the capabilities or 1535 01:15:56,420 --> 01:15:53,520 qualities they want and they go to them 1536 01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:56,430 and they're either freely involved or 1537 01:16:00,710 --> 01:15:58,290 they're not really they're made against 1538 01:16:02,750 --> 01:16:00,720 their will involved and I think it's 1539 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:02,760 from that these families that have been 1540 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:04,530 here since the beginning of time that 1541 01:16:10,190 --> 01:16:07,110 have been trapped you mentioned 1542 01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:10,200 something about the quality or what a 1543 01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:14,700 person has drawn towards what makes that 1544 01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:17,270 person different what makes that lineage 1545 01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:20,790 where they keep going back over the same 1546 01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:24,990 lineage what do you think draws that you 1547 01:16:30,830 --> 01:16:28,560 ask me really yes yeah I think it's 1548 01:16:33,530 --> 01:16:30,840 because at the the very beginning 1549 01:16:36,380 --> 01:16:33,540 whoever they chose first in our lineage 1550 01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:36,390 all the way back they have tampered with 1551 01:16:41,870 --> 01:16:39,450 the DNA so when you have children and so 1552 01:16:43,580 --> 01:16:41,880 on and so on and so on that DNA is and 1553 01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:43,590 still them built in you and they just 1554 01:16:49,310 --> 01:16:46,800 update it or they go in after looking at 1555 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:49,320 it to see how you've developed through 1556 01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,890 the either the person or their family 1557 01:16:57,020 --> 01:16:54,960 lineage the children that are born to 1558 01:16:59,180 --> 01:16:57,030 them and so on and so on up to today's 1559 01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:59,190 date I think that's what's going on 1560 01:17:04,190 --> 01:17:01,560 there adopt dating or checking what's 1561 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:04,200 going on have you used it is this child 1562 01:17:09,170 --> 01:17:06,330 have more DNA that we're looking for 1563 01:17:10,970 --> 01:17:09,180 than this child and that happens and I 1564 01:17:14,740 --> 01:17:10,980 think it's all kept in records and 1565 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:14,750 tracked to be involved with the et's 1566 01:17:20,419 --> 01:17:18,530 well I hadn't talked about this before 1567 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:20,429 with anyone 1568 01:17:24,860 --> 01:17:23,370 certainly not publicly well this is new 1569 01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:24,870 everybody listen up 1570 01:17:30,910 --> 01:17:27,000 yeah listen up it's new and supernatural 1571 01:17:38,510 --> 01:17:34,130 call about six months ago or something 1572 01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:38,520 like that I had a DNA test done by a 1573 01:17:46,910 --> 01:17:43,920 very very prestigious person and the 1574 01:17:49,459 --> 01:17:46,920 results finally came back they went to a 1575 01:17:56,570 --> 01:17:49,469 prestigious lab too but I finally got 1576 01:17:59,930 --> 01:17:56,580 the results back and my DNA is 99 point 1577 01:18:07,430 --> 01:17:59,940 something that fraction of that stuff 1578 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:07,440 last point pure going back centuries 1579 01:18:16,580 --> 01:18:12,530 this is a matrilineal they going back 1580 01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:16,590 back so what you're saying is that 1581 01:18:21,919 --> 01:18:19,500 you're you have a matrilineal line that 1582 01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:21,929 is almost a hundred percent of what I 1583 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:24,239 mean is it Eastern European or what is 1584 01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:24,570 it 1585 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:31,110 European that's very interesting so you 1586 01:18:37,070 --> 01:18:35,040 don't have a mix knodel I have that 1587 01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:37,080 fraction of a point that's not accounted 1588 01:18:42,649 --> 01:18:40,260 for and that is unusual because I know 1589 01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:42,659 I've had my DNA done and many of my 1590 01:18:48,110 --> 01:18:44,940 friends have and so you're not a Heinz 1591 01:18:50,689 --> 01:18:48,120 57 you have almost 100 percent purity in 1592 01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:50,699 your genetic lineage that's really 1593 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:53,670 unusual yes see there you go that shows 1594 01:19:01,160 --> 01:18:58,050 you something right there also yes yes 1595 01:19:03,530 --> 01:19:01,170 and then the unknown DNA even though 1596 01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:03,540 it's a little percentage well it's not 1597 01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:05,550 unknown just where it comes from visit 1598 01:19:15,290 --> 01:19:11,280 no it isn't yeah I think we're starting 1599 01:19:16,580 --> 01:19:15,300 to figure this out here hmm and I was 1600 01:19:19,729 --> 01:19:16,590 you know I had never even considered 1601 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:19,739 having my DNA checked because I couldn't 1602 01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:21,570 afford it but this was a special deal 1603 01:19:26,990 --> 01:19:24,360 and it didn't cost me anything so I I 1604 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:27,000 went ahead and had it done but that's 1605 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:28,530 wonderful but that would give you that 1606 01:19:34,219 --> 01:19:32,159 gives you an answer it does you know a 1607 01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:34,229 while for the answer to think in 1608 01:19:40,759 --> 01:19:37,920 I mean I knew what it was I mean all I 1609 01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:40,769 understand how these things are but it 1610 01:19:48,649 --> 01:19:44,329 just I thought well it couldn't be me 1611 01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:48,659 but it is it is you and it explains a 1612 01:19:53,509 --> 01:19:51,840 lot doesn't it about you and Marissa and 1613 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:53,519 Rachel and how all this came to be I 1614 01:19:59,779 --> 01:19:56,489 mean it was no coincidence no there were 1615 01:20:01,339 --> 01:19:59,789 no coincidences in this whole story and 1616 01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:01,349 but I didn't realize it at the time 1617 01:20:08,569 --> 01:20:06,329 right I don't know why and Becky I don't 1618 01:20:10,129 --> 01:20:08,579 know if you've been kind of unaware of 1619 01:20:13,069 --> 01:20:10,139 some of the stuff that happened to you 1620 01:20:16,689 --> 01:20:13,079 the main reason for it but I certainly 1621 01:20:20,089 --> 01:20:16,699 yes it just took time for me to think 1622 01:20:23,589 --> 01:20:20,099 well it was quite some time before I 1623 01:20:26,930 --> 01:20:23,599 could say I'm a nerd up and abductee I 1624 01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:26,940 couldn't say that I mean I knew I had 1625 01:20:33,589 --> 01:20:29,209 been abducted well what else would I be 1626 01:20:36,169 --> 01:20:33,599 but an abductee if you've been taken you 1627 01:20:38,859 --> 01:20:36,179 know but I couldn't say the words right 1628 01:20:41,540 --> 01:20:38,869 right well it can be traumatizing 1629 01:20:44,299 --> 01:20:41,550 especially if you're like no no no I 1630 01:20:46,609 --> 01:20:44,309 mean that that's something that is huge 1631 01:20:48,770 --> 01:20:46,619 and and then you can't tell anybody 1632 01:20:51,319 --> 01:20:48,780 because they know it's informed 1633 01:20:53,299 --> 01:20:51,329 everybody and made people who've had 1634 01:20:56,810 --> 01:20:53,309 experiences look like they were crazy 1635 01:21:01,250 --> 01:20:56,820 I mean I happen in the 1930s and 1636 01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:01,260 twenties a bunch a half of the hospitals 1637 01:21:05,299 --> 01:21:03,329 there but they were put in and mentally 1638 01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:05,309 disturbed they were not mentally 1639 01:21:10,459 --> 01:21:07,260 disturbed they were being visited I bet 1640 01:21:13,699 --> 01:21:10,469 you half of them were that oh well I 1641 01:21:15,049 --> 01:21:13,709 impossible the family that I lived was 1642 01:21:18,379 --> 01:21:15,059 threatened to have me committed 1643 01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:18,389 if I kept on talking about things that I 1644 01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:21,150 saw when I was there so I shut up for a 1645 01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:25,590 long time it happens to many hey we've 1646 01:21:29,660 --> 01:21:27,809 got a question for you Helen from the 1647 01:21:32,330 --> 01:21:29,670 chat room I'd like to ask it it's very 1648 01:21:34,660 --> 01:21:32,340 interesting Neutron has this question 1649 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:34,670 for you I'd like to know if you've ever 1650 01:21:40,759 --> 01:21:38,130 recollected during an abduction the 1651 01:21:43,219 --> 01:21:40,769 appearance of a black box near you 1652 01:21:45,140 --> 01:21:43,229 followed by noise and then an 1653 01:21:47,050 --> 01:21:45,150 out-of-body experience where you see 1654 01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:47,060 your body on a table and a 1655 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:50,030 next to you that's part one of this that 1656 01:21:57,010 --> 01:21:54,410 ever happened I have not had that 1657 01:21:59,650 --> 01:21:57,020 particular experience but this friend of 1658 01:22:04,840 --> 01:21:59,660 mine who thought I might have an a new 1659 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:04,850 plant had a dream or something where he 1660 01:22:12,370 --> 01:22:09,070 saw me on an operating table with what 1661 01:22:14,190 --> 01:22:12,380 probably was a clone standing beside me 1662 01:22:16,420 --> 01:22:14,200 and doing different procedures 1663 01:22:18,460 --> 01:22:16,430 interesting well and here's the second 1664 01:22:26,110 --> 01:22:18,470 part of the question Neutron would like 1665 01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:26,120 to know are you Rh negative blood type I 1666 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:30,320 don't think I am I don't think I am I am 1667 01:22:36,430 --> 01:22:32,330 NOT positive than that I'm sorry I can't 1668 01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:36,440 give it a definite answer on that no 1669 01:22:39,610 --> 01:22:38,270 that's okay Neutron you sound like you 1670 01:22:41,710 --> 01:22:39,620 know what you're talking about so thank 1671 01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:41,720 you for writing these questions in very 1672 01:22:48,250 --> 01:22:44,960 interesting questions I'm curious also 1673 01:22:50,890 --> 01:22:48,260 is yes is there a certain blood type 1674 01:22:53,340 --> 01:22:50,900 that they find more prevalent in those 1675 01:22:56,890 --> 01:22:53,350 that the that are considered abductees 1676 01:23:00,330 --> 01:22:56,900 yes there is and I'm not sure of that 1677 01:23:03,970 --> 01:23:00,340 either but it's pretty prevalent 1678 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:03,980 probably like 80 percent well I could 1679 01:23:11,260 --> 01:23:07,250 find out my blood type hmm yeah I need 1680 01:23:13,390 --> 01:23:11,270 to go jacket too there are an awful lot 1681 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:13,400 of us who are abducted that are in the 1682 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:15,890 medical profession yeah you might 1683 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:17,690 believe that I mean that's a perfect 1684 01:23:26,940 --> 01:23:22,850 place to be oh yeah yeah but I didn't 1685 01:23:30,010 --> 01:23:26,950 know that until just recently but Wow 1686 01:23:31,540 --> 01:23:30,020 what are we gonna be able to really put 1687 01:23:33,550 --> 01:23:31,550 our foot down about this I mean I'm 1688 01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:33,560 happy to talk to extraterrestrials 1689 01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:36,320 anytime they can come visit they can 1690 01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:39,760 come see me to my face but abductions 1691 01:23:46,510 --> 01:23:43,190 wiping my memory doing it so no that's 1692 01:23:48,460 --> 01:23:46,520 that's not okay yeah that part's a no-no 1693 01:23:50,620 --> 01:23:48,470 but the other part hey I'm all for it 1694 01:23:51,850 --> 01:23:50,630 too the other parts fine you know I we 1695 01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:51,860 can all have a nice friendly 1696 01:23:56,830 --> 01:23:55,400 conversation exchange information but I 1697 01:23:58,630 --> 01:23:56,840 don't want to be treated like a lab rat 1698 01:24:00,970 --> 01:23:58,640 and you know there's something about the 1699 01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:00,980 consciousness-raising 1700 01:24:05,229 --> 01:24:04,280 that whole concept to say no to being 1701 01:24:06,940 --> 01:24:05,239 treated like that 1702 01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:06,950 that I think may be part of our 1703 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:08,480 evolution maybe it's time that we all 1704 01:24:13,150 --> 01:24:10,610 all of us who understand the truth of 1705 01:24:15,390 --> 01:24:13,160 this phenomenon really stand up to that 1706 01:24:17,380 --> 01:24:15,400 and we can invite these 1707 01:24:20,979 --> 01:24:17,390 extraterrestrials to visit if we want 1708 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:20,989 but to say no to being manipulated being 1709 01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:24,770 used and being experimented on we're not 1710 01:24:28,810 --> 01:24:25,880 going to agree to that anymore 1711 01:24:31,450 --> 01:24:28,820 yeah they don't understand that because 1712 01:24:35,050 --> 01:24:31,460 it's an emotion it's a free will it's a 1713 01:24:37,870 --> 01:24:35,060 choice and there is is involved and 1714 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:37,880 intertwined and emotion and they don't 1715 01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:39,770 seem to understand that I think that's 1716 01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:43,280 what's stopping a lot of this that could 1717 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:45,110 very well be because they don't seem to 1718 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:48,410 understand they don't care if you don't 1719 01:24:52,420 --> 01:24:51,050 want them to do some procedure on you 1720 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:52,430 they don't care they just tie you down 1721 01:24:56,710 --> 01:24:55,130 and do it anyway hmm I don't think it's 1722 01:24:59,560 --> 01:24:56,720 a question that they don't care I just 1723 01:25:01,390 --> 01:24:59,570 think they don't know yeah they don't 1724 01:25:05,290 --> 01:25:01,400 understand emotion they're not feeling 1725 01:25:12,570 --> 01:25:05,300 it well I understand yes and no I mean 1726 01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:15,580 right within yes and no it's an actual 1727 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:18,080 emotion when that's coming out yes or no 1728 01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,650 there's an actual vibration of emotion 1729 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,600 coming out with it and they don't seem 1730 01:25:28,030 --> 01:25:25,280 to understand that that's why they were 1731 01:25:31,630 --> 01:25:28,040 so intrigued Dave until my parents that 1732 01:25:34,210 --> 01:25:31,640 and I dad they need to understand 1733 01:25:35,979 --> 01:25:34,220 emotion and that was long ago we were 1734 01:25:39,790 --> 01:25:35,989 told that long ago and I think that's 1735 01:25:42,490 --> 01:25:39,800 why that they're not able to step out 1736 01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:42,500 and go see all the people and deal with 1737 01:25:46,090 --> 01:25:44,000 that I mean you'd have all sorts of 1738 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,100 emotions either yes I'd love to see you 1739 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:48,560 or what the hair got you get out of here 1740 01:25:54,460 --> 01:25:52,489 thank you so sorry to interrupt but you 1741 01:25:57,550 --> 01:25:54,470 believe this we are out of time I feel 1742 01:25:59,229 --> 01:25:57,560 like we just got started here Helen we 1743 01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:59,239 may have to have you back on the show I 1744 01:26:03,370 --> 01:26:00,320 think you should write another book 1745 01:26:06,220 --> 01:26:03,380 you're fascinating guests full of great 1746 01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:06,230 information you're very brave and we're 1747 01:26:10,220 --> 01:26:08,450 very sorry for your loss of Marissa she 1748 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:10,230 was a beautiful daughter and 1749 01:26:15,890 --> 01:26:13,170 you know it's it's a it's a terrible 1750 01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:15,900 loss we know but everybody go by the 1751 01:26:20,570 --> 01:26:16,620 book 1752 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:20,580 Rachael's eyes amazon.com and shoot 1753 01:26:24,010 --> 01:26:23,130 shoot howling an email at book lady HL 1754 01:26:26,570 --> 01:26:24,020 at aol.com 1755 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:26,580 Becky Andreas and thank you for joining 1756 01:26:30,710 --> 01:26:27,570 us tonight 1757 01:26:33,170 --> 01:26:30,720 PK great as always thank you so much 1758 01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:33,180 we'll be back next week with another